Dee Lake: Pick a Number between Three and X

[dmac]

In Part Two, Dee Lake almost denies being at Cabin 26 the day after the murders (4-12). He says he "almost went there" but didn't:

"Yeah, I had stopped by, almost went by that evening" (April 12th) LIE.

"I used to hitch-hike back and forth, because I didn't have a car at the time". If he didn't own more than one car, this lie may technically be true as he'd lent his car to Marde so Marde could use Dee's battery in Marilyn's defunct car, which LE says was on blocks at the time. Didja get all that nonsense? In other words, it's a LIE.

Dee mentions that he was already in Keddie with his son, it was getting dark, and he was going to go see Marde but didn't because he often caught a ride with his buddy, Mike, "who lived a couple doors away" from 26. He begins mumbling at this point but definitely implies that he and his son got a ride back to Indian Falls from 'Mike'. The roster I have of Keddie shows only one Mike in all of Keddie. A glance at the timeline shows Mike from cabin 16, the same one who reported hearing screaming coming from behind 28. Unless he means his friend was Mike from 13, who was living with Frank, the guy with a friend with a green van, the same guy who saw Avery Schreiber scream at Sue. But that Mike moved out mid-March, so you be the judge on how pathetic a liar Dee is. [edit point: it's since been learned that Frank and Mike are the same person: Frank Mike Davis, known as Frank to PCSO and as Mike to everyone else. PCSO claims he moved out by April, yet he recently claimed he moved out the night of Apr 11.]

Dee says he manages to get into Keddie on the 12th, when the place was overrun with LE, and he gets a ride home, maybe even from the guy who heard screaming the night before, yet the first time Dee heard of the murders is within a few days, when "a couple Sheriff's detectives knocked on [his] door". Dee chalks up their interest in him to his military background and, perhaps, his knowledge of knots used by the military. Yes, I did previously mention in other posts how there were many types of complex knots used in binding the victims. Bingo on the military knot hypothesis. Watch again the section of the interview with Dee concerning knots... it's lengthy.

Before he goes off on knots, Dee explains that the officers showed him composites. As we know, the cop from Reno did the composites during one of The Amazing Techno-Thomas's Wizzo Hypno-vestigation sessions with Justin some days later (do we know the actual date they were done, and when the composites were distributed to LE?). We also know that Dee was visited by, evidently, a sole officer on the 4-22 followup on the rifle, the car, and Dee's association with Bo and Marde directly. No mention of knots or demolitions in the officer's report, and no mention of guns and Dee's opinion of Marde and Bo as murderers in Dee's version, so Dee is implying his first visit, by two officers, came much earlier than 4-22.

Now, let's look at Dee's positions in relation to the crime: LE paperwork clearly states Dee told them he loaned Bo and Marde his car for many days so they could use his battery in the red station wagon which LE says was on blocks at the time of the murders. We don't seem to have corroboration from anybody on Dee's tale of the car loan, so take Dee's version with a dry lake bed of salt. Dee went from his home in Indian Falls to Keddie and back many times just to look for and retrieve the rifle, plus whatever daily activities he did as patron saint of the under-trodden vets of NorCal. Marilyn didn't work, and Marde worked less than 300 feet away, so why did Marde borrow Dee's car to use it's battery in a car on blocks? Dee tells LE he was in Keddie on the 11th and retrieved the rifle, and tells the world in Part 2 that he was in Keddie on the 12th yet entirely unaware of the murders, despite perhaps getting a ride back to Indian Falls from the very same guy who reported hearing the screams to LE?

Either way, the way Dee tells it, Bo and Marde didn't need a third perp, nor an extra day, to get rid of Tina. They had Dee's car, so why call in a third party? But again, if MK is correct about the direct roads to Camp 18 being unusable at that time, and the route therefore being 110+ miles each way, no f*cking way did they take Tina to Camp 18 in the early hours of Sunday the 12th. It wouldn't physically be possible to do it before people were waking to the hellish nightmare he and Bo had unleashed.

This strongly suggests they stashed her somewhere, logically outside of Keddie, until they could make the 5+ hour trek to Camp 18. And, seeing as Dee has been pinpointed for YEARS as being the guy they were with on that road trip "to Reno", it seems Dee could still at least be #3. Yet, funnily enough, he didn't mention any of that to LE.

Cut to Nina Meeks' interview from 04, in which she states Marde "went to Reno the day after the murder" and got back to her place around 5-6 pm, high as a kite (well, he and Bo had been very busy trying to cover their tracks. You don't sleep when there's work to do and speed is readily available in your stash). "I got to go to Keddie. I got to go. There's something I started I've got to finish". You know that bit, too, where she convinces him to stay, yet he keeps fretting and eventually leaves in the middle of the night, after all have gone to bed.

Now, the crux of it: If the "Trip to Reno" was really a trip to Camp Eighteen, and Dee was involved in that ride, his lies have only tripped him up into being suspect #3 in this case.

Either way, his lies have tied him inextricably from Bo and Marde's actions. By trying to cover his ass, he's drawn nothing but glaring attention. Same with Marderer.

I wonder why Bo is the only one that was low-key enough to disappear for ten years, get busted, die within months, and then hide in plain sight for years in Reno or Vegas. Hmmm...

Happy New Year. I thought I'd start it off right with something that says "Happy Hunting" at the same time. Let's get these bastards. Dead or alive.

[The following is an UPDATE to this post, as of April 2015]

News that "an evidence car" was hauled into PCSO's possession, then promptly destroyed, lines up with Dee's lies concerning his whereabouts on the 12th, his 'not having a car' and his 'loaning Marty his car' (as detailed above). Since then, Dee has lied about what happened to the car he loaned Marty, which further lines up with it becoming a PCSO paperweight.

Dee claimed that he was visited twice by PCSO- once shortly after the murders (he 'next day', then "I wouldn't say it was the next day, somewhere in that time"), and then again days/weeks later. The sole report we have on a visit to Dee comes from April 22, and the details in the report strongly suggest it was the first, and perhaps only, visit (other than impounding his car). The report says the R/Os were asked by superiors to interview him and why, and corroborates very little of what Dee claimed they discussed (knots, etc). One major LIE is Dee says PCSO showed him the composites. Uh, not so fast, Dumbass Dee: Justin went through several 'interviews' in the weeks after the first crime, and while I don't have an exact date, it appears the interview with 'artist' Embrey was one of the last, occurring in May. The sketches didn't show up in regional papers until around May 27. The first instance of people coming to PCSO with 'sightings' based on the composites follows that date. Dee did NOT see composites when PCSO visited him because THEY DIDN'T YET EXIST!

The idea Dee was anywhere near Keddie on the 12th but didn't know about the murders until PCSO knocked on his door is beyond a lie; it ranks right up there with Bo saying he was a Chicago cop at age 9, Marty accidentally admitting Justin probably noticed him killing people at 28, Loon saying she went home and watched the Late News / war movie, and Tony Garedakis claiming he helped Sue and the kids get firewood on the 12th. Oh, something about Tony's firewood lie is it also verifies he had a truck!

As to whether Dee knew knots, much less ballistics, available records indicate he was nothing more than a pencil-pushing clerk on repair ships. Beyond basic training, I have grave doubts he would receive cross-training in knots, much less ballistics! His entire military history, particularly how he presents himself as PTSD and a savior to all vets, is complete bullshit. He's the very antithesis of the vast majority of vets, who deserve far more than just our thanks and respect.

The Mike he refers to is, indeed, Frank Mike Davis, a close friend who, records indicate, he lived with at the Quincy Junction Rd. address Mike moved to whenever he vacated cabin 13.

As for corroborations of Dee's car loan to Marty, it is verified in various reports, not the least of which is the BS game of hide-and-go-seek with the mysterious 22 rifle that, in all likelihood, only existed as part of the group alibi (a .22 pellet rifle was brought to the crime scene and removed,so those involved lied about a regular .22 rifle- even offering that information cold- to divert from the fact they used a pellet rifle, and left the site they knocked off the barrel at the crime scene.)

Some stories say Marty was fired at the bar that night by Jan Albin. The primary source is Mama Meeks, so toss it out the window. Loon herself explained that rent for cabin 26 was in lieu of a paycheck, which doesn't add up. Employers must have records, and Marty's pay must have been commensurate with the hours he put in. Even if the cabin was free, as a perk for being employed, that also makes no sense. Even if rent was $150/mo and Marty was paid $5/hr (which is about right), the rent is equal to 30 hours od labor. Nope, that's not a viable story, Loon. Let's also consider Marty was in the VA bouncy barn for most of March, so doesn't it sound like he was fired prior to his stay at the VA? Add to it all, Loon told PCSO rent on 28 was 'paid through April'- and how do you pay rent on a cabin that's a freebie for a guy who was fired on the 11th of the month?

We now have various stories about when Marty, Bo, and Loon were at 26 on the 12th, when Marty was supposedly seen burning stuff outside of 26 that morning (I think that story is complete Mama Meeks BS), and when/how Loon and Mama made contact. Likewise, we have many different times and scenarios explaining Loon and her boys being taken in by the Meeks. What we do have is Dee's green Ford wagon leaving Keddie at roughly noon, another (larger) sedan leaving Keddie at roughly the same time (Mama, Loon and the boys?), and Phillip outside the liquor store by the Meeks home, offering publicly unknown details of the crime while collecting money "for the victims" in order to buy booze. How quickly did those details get to the Meeks home in order for Phillip to sell them for a drink?

If the stories are true about Marty showing up at the Meeks on the evening of the 12th, it lines up well with them leaving Keddie at noon, stopping by the Meeks to give any number of stories about heading to Reno, then traveling to Camp 18 to dump Tina, with Marty being dropped off upon their return.

It's also the last time we hear of Dee's car. innit?! Lots of jabber about Dee lovingly loaning Marty the use of his car to jump a dead car on blocks, much blathering about the search for a .22 rifle they, as upstanding citizens, didn't want to fall into the wrong hands, but absolutely no mention, EVER, of Dee getting his car back from 26.

[dawghouse]

Sheesh, could Dee have been more of a nervous turkey in Part II? That guy knows a helluva lot more. Did Dee not think that maybe Josh had access to police reports with his contradictory statements?

And that's not to mention that comment about never wanting to ask Marde if he did the crimes, because the knowledge might make Dee an accessory to them. Nice vote of confidence for your buddy. Guess what Dee? Allegedly being a lookout, providing transportation, and lying to the cops makes you an accessory, too. Allegedly.


(BTW, dmac-love the title of the thread)

[frida]

Amen Dawghouse! He's a babbling fool- with so many freudian slips and tells it isn't even funny. How about when he starts to cry when he says he KNOWS his friend Marde did not have it in him to do this type of crime but then goes on to say that one thing he learned from the law class he took (held just down the hall from the hypnosis seminar attended by the Doug Thomas no doubt) is that ANYBODY is capable of the crime of murder? Says there is no common thread or denominator involved in the crime of murder (uh, except for the part where someone, um, murders someone)--that somebody gets stupid and does something stupid?

Interesting that he talks about not wanting to be an accessory to murder after the fact--says he didn't even want to ask Marde if he did it for that reason yet at the same time says the knows that Marde doesn't have it in him to do the crime. If you didn't ALREADY know your friend had blood on his hands wouldn't you say something more like-"I didn't have to ask him if he did it--I know he couldn't have." It is like he's trying to cover his own ass and defend Marde at the same time.

The main reason I am devoting time to parsing his words for subtext is that I believe he knows a lot more and we know he is still alive, unlike Marde and possibly Bo. Even if Bo is still alive, he is untouchable for whatever damn reason. I really wish LE would take a look at Dee Lake. That is the most frustrating part of this case--there are people who know stuff and nobody is even asking them questions. I am not saying they can haul them in and beat them with a rubber hose until they talk--but this fool let stuff slip in his interview with Josh. Josh who wasn't at all threatening in the interview. Seems to me if someone just sat down and questioned him and his account of the events, more would come to light. Just like Marde and Bo, if you just let them talk, they hang themselves. These are not a crimminal masterminds. In my opinion Dee's tears had more to do with his involvement in the aftermath of the crime then in his belief in Marde's being wrongfully accused.




"3am and All is Not Well! Need some help moving a body!"

[SecretAgentHolly]

For a long time now it's been my own theory that there was an accomplice who disposed of Tina's body. I don't think Marty or Bo did that. I believe she was wrapped in Bo's jacket (from the amazing technicolor dream suit) and perhaps also in the sheet from the girls bed. I believe it was Dee Snake himself that took Tina to Camp Eighteen.


Just my speculation here.

[SGRider]

Yes, I agree that they probably used the sheet and not his jacket. After all, the jacket was probably one of the items they were seen burning in the wee hours of the morning of the 12th.

[dmac]

Last September, I promised details I'd uncovered about Dee. Yesterday in chat, MK spoke of investigating Dee's military career, and I soon realized I'd inadvertently never posted what I promised five months ago... including links to the most detailed military career of any suspect scumbag in this case. Without further ado...


Dee Jay Lake
Born Sept 1952 (59 yo)

Known Addresses:
Arcata, CA 115 Samoa Blvd #26
Quincy, CA 271 Coburn St
Quincy, CA Lee Rd
Indian Falls, CA (this is where he lived during the murders)
Reno, NV
San Diego, CA

Associated:
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (current wife)
Remona Lake (ex-wife)

When he married Remona in 1975, the marriage was listed under two separate last names for her:

Davison
Madrigal

During his military career, Dee was a clerk. Not a lot of use for the "demolitions specialist" and knot-tying skills he boasted about in the documentary when all you're doing is watching the store aboard a ship. As for the ships he was on, there were two: the Gompers and the Waddell, which he seems to have transferred to in 71 when the Gompers was servicing it. Here's a breakdown of the ships:

USS Samuel Gompers--- SKSN Dee Lake S1 Div 1970-71
http://www.samuelgompersreunion.org/reg ... _attendees

"USS Samuel Gompers (AD-37) was a destroyer tender, the first of her class, and designed to be a floating repair shop for ships of the U.S. Navy either in port or at sea. It was named for Samuel Gompers, a distinguished American labor leader during the late nineteenth century."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Samuel_Gompers_(AD-37)

The Gompers was stationed in San Diego the entire time Dee was aboard.

USS Waddell DDG-24 -----
Dee Lake, Chaplain
SK3, 1971-1974

http://www.assoc-usswaddell.com/the-boa ... fdirectors
http://www.assoc-usswaddell.com/the-board-1
http://www.usswaddell.com/boards/history.html

"USS Waddell (DDG-24) was a Charles F. Adams class guided missile armed destroyer in the United States Navy. She was named for Captain James Iredell Waddell CSN (1824-1886)."

1971- spent all year in California waters, deployed to Hawaii Nov 12. End of Nov deployed to Subic Bay (Philippines). From 12 Nov did limited support gunfire near DMZ off South Vietnam.
http://www.usswaddell.com/history/1971/1971.html
http://www.usswaddell.com/history/1971/1971.dept.html

1972- saw limited hostile fire near N Vietnam DMZ, off Hong Kong, for ten days in early April. More counter-fire mid-May
http://www.usswaddell.com/history/1972/1972.html
http://www.usswaddell.com/history/1972/1972.sched.html
http://www.usswaddell.com/history/1972/1972.dept.html

1973
http://www.usswaddell.com/history/1973/1973.html
http://www.usswaddell.com/history/1973/1973.sched.html

1974
http://www.usswaddell.com/history/1974/1974.html
http://www.usswaddell.com/history/1974/1974.sched.html

Dee was SKSN (Storekeeper Seaman- likely an SK3) aboard the Gompers, and SK3 (Storekeeper Third Class) aboard the Waddell. Not SK2 or SK1, but lowly SK3. He must have spent much of his military career counting inventory, and pushing pencils around the ship. What a waste of his demolitions expertise! (note: Dee was also S1, which breaks down into 'S' Staff and '1' personnel or administration. S1 means he was Staff Personnel, Storekeeper Third Class, under the direction of Supply Officer.

One of the oldest Navy ratings, Storekeepers are tasked with maintaining ship or company military supply stores. Their responsibilities generally include purchasing and procurement, shipping and receiving, and issuing of equipment, tools, consumable items or anything else obtained through the Naval Supply System.

As with most US Navy storekeepers, Dee may have been trained specifically to be an SK3, which was typically done in Meridian MS. Due to the lowly nature of his rank (similar to Petty Officer Third Class), Dee may have bypassed training altogether. No matter how you cut it, Dee was not trained to be a demo expert. EVER. As with Spenceypoo and Marty, he tries to blow smoke up the ass of anyone who will listen. Because their military career and credentials are so pisspoor, these assholes are compelled to boast achievements they never came close to. Spenceypoo is even compelled to lie about Marty's career, saying he was in alot of action, got PTSD as a result, and died of exposure to Agent Orange. I guess Spencey's outright ashamed of his brother and, being a bigoted troglodyte, is likely more ashamed that Marty died of AIDS.

Dee also claims to be a religious twat, a "chaplain" even. The church I most commonly see him associated with is based in Reno, where address histories show Dee once lived.

Dias con Cristo church, Reno
http://diasconcristo.com/docs/newslette ... pt2008.pdf
http://diasconcristo.com/


Here are some more links where Dee is mentioned, usually as a self-declared champion of the Vietnam Vet. I have nothing against real vets, my dad was one. I despise cocksuckers like Dee Lake, who ride the VA Train for all they can steal, abusing and tarnishing the real vets who served. Dee Lake is a subhuman stain whose association with vets is an insult to all real vets.

Ride for a cause
http://www.vvdailypress.com/news/troops ... erans.html

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=9 ... 91,3427698

Veterans Honored In 2002
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=9 ... 7,10545805

Veteran's Day Parade 2006
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=9 ... 5,20225195

Veterans Ask To Rename Plaza
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=9 ... 8,22687616
http://www.countyofplumas.com/archives/ ... -03-20.pdf

Always slogging the VA cause, I have never found a shred of evidence Dee was ever elected to or held any post at any Veterans association, much less that he was a counselor.

This is all I can find in my "Lake Files" at the moment. More to follow... when I stumble across it.

[Eastern]

I think Dee was also in the National Guard after his Navy stint. From what I remember, his "Chaplain" position was in a military retiree association for his old ship.

People who knew him said he wore military fatigues almost all the time back in the day, around Plumas.

[Rally]

I read in mk thread there was a snow storm on the 12th. I have done some digging and in truckee / Tahoe , they only received .28 inches on April 12, 1981. April 11th the high temp was 50 degrees, 12th it was 57 degrees, And on the 13th it was 63 degrees. Truckee and Tahoe are just south of keddie, and if there is any snow storms, they get them, I lived there in the early 90's.

[dmac]

I just noticed, when researching Rod DeCrona, that Dee Lake's house is for sale. I wonder if he's leaving Plumas, and why?

link

Click on the photo gallery and you can see the charming rack of rifles mounted above the bed. Is one of them the 22 that Marty and Bo were playing with? Look at the photos of his trash-filled back yard. Reminds me of Ariel Castro's back yard, in Cleveland.

Also, you can see the same gallery here, just blown up some.

NOTE THE GREEN VAN PARKED IN HIS BACK YARD. When was the last time you saw an old, piece of crap van? A green one?

green-van.jpg

This is old info, but Dee did, indeed, bail from Plumas shortly after being contacted a couple times by Deb. He left quickly for a town just over the California border, in Oregon. His house has never sold, with the price dropping a few thou now and then in hopes of getting an offer.

Why did suddenly Dee bail from Quincy, Plumas, California, where many were convinced he would live til he died?

[Chichibcc]

I remember Sheila's account of being followed by someone in a green van, but I don't think she ever mentioned what particular shade of green the van was, unfortunately. I tried finding the thread where she discussed the incident to double-check, but wasn't able to locate it.

[dmac]

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=747&p=9728&hilit=walk*&sid=dd471301f32c225932e014179b18224e#p9728

"Post by tinkerbell » Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:42 am
It was a couple of days afterwards. Myslef and Laronda were walking and a vehicle was following us and we ran into the video store."

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=747&p=9728&hilit=walk*&sid=dd471301f32c225932e014179b18224e#p9728

"Post by tinkerbell » Thu Mar 03, 2011 5:42 pm
Yes we were and now I could not tell you the color."

[azucena]

As noted, Tina could have been transported to Feather Falls via the Quincy - La Porte road. There is also a road up over Meadow Valley via Bucks Lake. Neither of these roads would have had much traffic, however, they both go over some fairly high elevations, the Bucks Lake Road more so. I do not recall what the winter was like, and whether there were any late spring storms that would have rendered both roads impassable, especially in a sedan like car. I do remember the 80s in general were drought years, so it is possible either road would have been more or less passable.

Quincy and surrounding areas are much lower in elevation than Truckee or Tahoe, thus less snow. The elevation over the Quincy La Porte road is approximately 4500 at it highest and over Bucks near 5900, maybe less. Typically they are both closed in the dead of winter, but by April, depends on the year. I would estimate round trip time at about four, maybe more hours depending on conditions.

the main thing is Feather Falls was not that much of a well known area. I don't think either Marty or Bo had been around long enough to know of it's existence, so I feel someone with more knowledge of the local area had to be involved. it was not an easy place to get to.

I

[dmac]

It has been suggested numerous times that the crime can be traced back to who owned the property. The impetus for the LE coverup of the murders, at least, may theoretically be traced to the owners of Keddie, and supposedly can also/or be traced to who owned the property where Tina was found. With Keddie, we know Gary Mollath was in charge of that property, and his background is dubious at best. When it comes to Camp 18, it is not going to be easy to trace ownership of that land in 1981.

1> Is that property where she was really dumped, or were animals dragging her remains onto multiple properties? Only charts of parcels will tell.

2> finding parcels for 1981 involves being in Butte County and accessing said maps from county resources. They could be in libraries as well, but should be in the county building, assessors offices, etc. Not easy to access without being there, impossible on the web or via phone.

3> finding ownership of said property-- see (2)

It's not easy to find this info without physically visiting Butte County and Plumas County government facilities. But here is what I would expect to find:

KEDDIE: English owned the land in the 40s-60s, then sold it to the Mollaths who controlled it under the English Properties name. When Albins/Hogaboams took over, they were LEASING the property, and after the murders, news reports erroneously said they were SELLING Keddie. In fact, they were trying to get out from under the remainder of their lease. Ownership was never out of Mollath's hands. I also suspect Mollath owned the Keddie Resort area, up and to including some RR property that was probably still under lease to WP via grandfathered contracts from English. Mollaths also owned areas west of 70 including, I suspect, large tracts west and north beyond what we think of as the Motel area (also known as Keddie Heights). I do not believe Old Keddie (the town south of our Keddie, where the old Roundhouse was and where some dubious 'suspects' lived) was ever under Mollath control, and the maps that tie old and resort Keddies together are by name and govt-imposed boundaries rather than ownership.

CAMP 18: This is an area Ache researched very early on, probably as soon as documents surfaced allowing us to pinpoint the location of the 'discovery' of Tina's remains. She came up with a few names that are historically associated with running the mills at camp 18, and also associated with being a Big Name in that area. She was never able to establish any connections to actual ownership (she can't visit Butte County archives from Australia, can she?), but she did tie the name McKim to Camp 18. She also stated her McKims were from the same place PCSO suspect Steve McKim was from: Iowa. However, all my records indicate that is a mistake of some sort on ache's part. The PCSO documents state the McKims came from Illinois to visit relative Scott McKim, in Twain. I don't expect the ownership of that area to be a slam dunk of any sort, because it would be mighty stupid to take Tina's body that far just to abandon it on the ground surface near the access road to an operational timber property. Still, if the owner is a name relevant to the case, then it would be a slam-dunk of sorts.

[dmac]

Dee's house at 2221 Lee Rd, Quincy, CA, is no longer listed. I just called the bank, and the rep said, "It's going through foreclosure. They were underwater on it and tried a few things to get it sold, but it didn't work."

In my book, bad news for Dee Lake is a great way to start any day!

[dmac]

About a year ago, I found something else Dee Lake has in common with Frank Mike Davis: they lived at the same address!

According to PCSO, Frank Mike Davis said he moved to Quincy Junction Road when he vacated Cabin 13 in 1981 (prior to, or the night of, the murders depending on which version(s) you believe). Sure enough, I found confirmation Davis lived at 1898 Quincy Junction Rd. Then I found that Dee Lake lived at the very same address!

Dee says he had a friend in Keddie named 'Mike' who was his personal taxi (Craig musta been tied down taxiing John-John and Dana around, and the Meeks' taxi was busy breaking into the Methodist church so Phil had a pad to crash on). Dee says he went to see Mike the day of the murders but never went to Marty's house (all of 300 ft away, despite Dee's car still being there? Rifle returned that morning? BULLSHIT!). Dee claimed 'Mike' took him home to Indian Falls (with Dee's son, who he claims he was hitch-hiking with).

Keep in mind, PCSO says Frank Mike Davis moved out prior to 4-1-81, yet Dee says Mike gave him a ride home that night. And Mike recently said he moved out of Cabin 13 until the night of the murders, taking his last load around dusk.

Read that again. And now we have Dee and Mike living at the same address?

For an unknown reason, PCSO referred to Mike as 'Frank Davis' in reports, despite the fact he always went by Mike, and we are DEFINITELY talking about the same guy. Dee Lake was friends with Mike Davis. Davis was/is friends with Garedakis. Dee was and DEFINITELY still is touchy-feely pals with Tony. All of this reinforces a huge circle-jerk of participants and liars surrounding the murders, the depth of the fake alibis, and the reasons for fake memory loss.

Name someone who 'knew' TONY THE GREEK or THE GREEK, but who has no memory of his real name (Garedakis), and I guarantee you that person was either INVOLVED or KNOWS. That's a lot of warm bodies still involved in the crimes, even if Bo and Marty are dead and PCSO are ignoring Loon's direct involvement.

[dmac]

There is a huge update to this thread. The guy named as Mike and Frank, Dee's supposed chauffeur, is Frank Mike Davis, who lived in Cabin 13 (next door to 28) and gave what can only be described as a bullshit alibi for Tony the Greek Garedakis.

My info also tells me that Dee and Frank Mike Davis lived together on Quincy Junction Road, just a quarter mile from where Dana lived and where DeCrona was daily visiting his gf. I smell a rat the size of a bus.

Dee Lake
Tony Garedakis
Frank Mike Davis
involved.

[dmac]

MASSIVE DAMNED BUMP TO THIS

Dee ran from California, lost his Quincy house as a direct result of RUNNING. Many said Dee was so happy in Plumas that he would die at 2221 Lee Rd. Why would Dee bail that home and run to Oregon, LOSING DECADES OF EQUITY at 2221 when the bank foreclosed? Who the f! jumps away from a good home and loses decades of equity to run across state lines, away from a murder investigation? DEE MAGGOT LAKE, that's who!

DEE LAKE RAN right after being asked why he's lying about the Keddie Murders. Great timing, asshat Dee! That's BEFORE local cops re-opened Keddie!

Ever wonder why nobody in Plumas/PCSO looked at Dee as the c*** he is? AND STILL DON'T? After the murders and the dumping of Tina's body, Dee married into a Plumas family of merit.

[patricktharper]

dmac, this just happened? The more I look into the evidence, Dee's name is all over this. I'm not so sure he was directly involved in the murders, but he certainly knew what was going on and likely helped with cleanup ect. There's no denying that he's hiding something in all of his interviews. Do you think this has anything to do with DNA evidence linking him directly to the scene? It would be pretty hard to dodge that bullet, but I wouldn't be surprise if any DNA evidence had long since been contaminated intentionally or due to incompetence.

[dmac]

Why did Dee Jay Lake claim in Part II that he didn't have a car at the time of the murders, even though he did?

Dee is CLEARLY saying he didn't own a car at the time, not that he didn't have possession of his car. So, why would he lie?

I think the admission by PCSO that they destroyed a car taken into evidence in the case (Sue's was processed and sold) ties this up beautifully: PCSO took Dee's car into evidence, didn't like what they found, and destroyed the car and evidence tying Dee, Marty, Bo, etc, to the murders.

Also note in the PCSO report regarding the gun/car, LE don't mention make/model/year of Dee's car, and Dee concedes he was at Marty's house on April 12:

"I was assigned to contact Dee Jay Lake at Indian Falls by AS/Shanks in that Lake's car was parked at Martin Smartt's residence on 4-12-81. Lake told me that he was at Martin Smartt's residence because a few days prior to the 12th Martin Smartt's car wouldn't start due to a dead battery and Lake left him his car so he could use the battery out of it."

Patrick: The last time Deb called Dee, he refused to discuss the case any further. Shortly after, he put his home on the market and bought a house in Oregon under his wife's name (she has Plumas County retirement benefits, he never held a real job in his life). It was early 2013 when I found he'd bailed and his house was for sale. He lost the house around August of 2014. Dee and Tony the Greek Garedakis are both on the run. Why would they run if they're not guilty? Dee took his own advice to Marty: "Get on the bus, Gus!"

[dmac]

If you read my OP on this thread, I completely screwed up:

In Part Two, Dee Lake almost denies being at Cabin 26 the day after the murders (4-12). He says he [url]=http://keddie28.com/bb/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=413#p5523"almost went there"[/url] but didn't

Dee actually ADMITTED he was with Marty, et al, on the night of the murders, then quickly denied what he just admitted:

"Yeah, I had stopped by, almost went by that evening"

Dee said he actually DID meet with Marty, et al, then Dee quickly changed his story to say "almost went by". As in:

"Yeah, I went by that night.... no, I almost went by but never did, uh, I was never with the killers,uh, may I change my diaper?"

Dee Lake was INVOLVED in the MURDERS.